{"id":20173,"date":"2026-06-11T20:23:27","date_gmt":"2026-06-11T23:23:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/impactocastex.com.ar\/?p=20173"},"modified":"2026-06-11T20:23:27","modified_gmt":"2026-06-11T23:23:27","slug":"carlos-pagni-hay-una-parte-de-cristina-kirchner-que-esta-fascinada-con-milei","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/impactocastex.com.ar\/?p=20173","title":{"rendered":"Carlos Pagni: \u201cHay una parte de Cristina Kirchner que est\u00e1 fascinada con Milei\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cEl poder no es solo el poder del Estado. Tampoco es el poder del conflicto social, que ser\u00eda la idea de Marx. No es algo que se tiene, sino que circula y no lo tiene nadie, condiciona todas las formas de la vida social y genera un tipo especial de ser humano\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>La reflexi\u00f3n, que recupera las ideas del fil\u00f3sofo franc\u00e9s <b>Michel Foucault<\/b>, pertenece a <b>Carlos Pagni<\/b> y fue volcada en una conversaci\u00f3n de fuerte contenido te\u00f3rico sobre el poder, su din\u00e1mica expansiva y sus l\u00edmites, que el periodista mantuvo con su colega <b>Diego Genoud<\/b> en una charla organizada por el <b>Centro de Investigaci\u00f3n y Acci\u00f3n Social (CIAS)<\/b>, que dirige el jesuita <b>Rodrigo Zarazaga<\/b>.<\/p>\n<p><b>\u201cHa habido una disoluci\u00f3n de la pol\u00edtica que conlleva un debilitamiento enorme del Estado. Y ah\u00ed surge otro poder: el poder de las mafias\u201d<\/b>, sostuvo Pagni.<\/p>\n<p>De los pensadores <b>Norberto Bobbio<\/b> y <b>Nicol\u00e1s Maquiavelo<\/b> a la democracia liberal y el marxismo como filosof\u00eda de la sospecha, con sus cuestionamientos sobre el Estado y la lucha de clases, la conversaci\u00f3n deriv\u00f3 en la coyuntura.<\/p>\n<p><b>\u201cMilei es el resultado de una crisis de representaci\u00f3n. De una crisis m\u00e1s de representaci\u00f3n\u201d,<\/b> dijo y ahond\u00f3 en la idea de que se trata de un problema c\u00edclico para el pais, que antes se resolv\u00eda con golpes de Estado, pero que desde 1983 se canaliza dentro del sistema democr\u00e1tico. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cMilei surge como producto de esa crisis, reflejada en el 30% del electorado que en 2023 opt\u00f3 por una opci\u00f3n in\u00e9dita. Milei era un desconocido, lo que agrava el fen\u00f3meno\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cMilei empieza a tener caracter\u00edsticas conocidas, algunas de ellas muy conocidas\u201d, dijo.<\/p>\n<p>Para el columnista de LA NACION, el Presidente encarna un liberalismo sensible a las libertades de mercado, pero <b>ciego a los marcos institucionales<\/b> que tambi\u00e9n forman parte de esa larga corriente de pensamiento. \u201cNo es novedoso, porque conecta a Milei con toda una tradici\u00f3n\u201d, sigui\u00f3.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cS\u00ed hay algo novedoso: Milei representa un problema para el peronismo. No solo porque le gan\u00f3\u201d, marc\u00f3.<\/p>\n<p><b>\u201cHay una parte de Cristina Kirchner que est\u00e1 fascinada con Milei\u201d<\/b>, arriesg\u00f3 el periodista, en alusi\u00f3n al modo en que el Presidente ejerce el poder. \u201cAll\u00ed se crea un problema y una perturbaci\u00f3n\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>El problema que el Presidente representa, en cambio, para Pro, sostuvo, es que le arrebat\u00f3 su sociolog\u00eda electoral. <b>\u201cHay una parte de ese electorado que dijo: \u2018Correte, que prefiero, con todo respeto, a ese mamarracho\u2019.<\/b> Es humillante, pero esa tensi\u00f3n todav\u00eda no se resolvi\u00f3\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Un centenar de personas sigui\u00f3 con atenci\u00f3n la conversaci\u00f3n, que fluy\u00f3 libremente y tuvo lugar en el sal\u00f3n de actos del Colegio del Salvador, donde el CIAS tiene su sede.<\/p>\n<p>El encuentro form\u00f3 parte de un ciclo de di\u00e1logos impulsado por la escuela de liderazgo del centro, que el a\u00f1o pasado cumpli\u00f3 diez a\u00f1os de existencia.<\/p>\n<p>\u200bEl columnista de La Nacion disert\u00f3 en el ciclo de di\u00e1logos del CIAS; habl\u00f3 de teor\u00eda pol\u00edtica pero tambi\u00e9n de la coyuntura; las limitaciones institucionales del Presidente\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cEl poder no es solo el poder del Estado. 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